Saturday, August 11, 2012

Please no relationship or worship of Jesus "LDS" Quote

Our Relationship with the Lord


Now, it is no secret that many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus. I shall summarize the true doctrine in this field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent and believe the accepted gospel verities as I shall set them forth.

We worship the Father and him only and no one else.  We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense--the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator.

Christ worked out his own salvation by worshiping the Father. After the Firstborn of the Father, while yet a spirit being, had gained power and intelligence that made him like unto God; after he had become, under the Father, the Creator of worlds without number; after he had reigned on the throne of eternal power as the Lord Omnipotent--after all this he yet had to gain a mortal and then an immortal body.

The Bible encourages a personal, intimate relationship of each believer with Christ because He is our only source of true life:

  • Jesus said: "Abide in Me and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me...apart from Me you can do nothing" (Jn. 15:4-5).
  • Jesus said: "I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he shall live forever...unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves...He who eats my flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life...My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink" (Jn. 6:51-55).
  • Jesus said: "I am the resurrection and the life" (Jn. 11:25).
  • "For I have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me" (Gal. 2:20).
  • "When Christ who is our life is revealed, then you also shall be revealed with Him in glory" (Col. 3:4).
  • Paul's desire was: "that I may know Him [Jesus]" (Phil. 3:10).
  • God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord" (1 Cor. 1:9).

1. He was worshiped as God by the angels. Heb. 1:6
2. He was worshiped as God by the shepherds. Luke 2:15
3. He was worshiped as God by the wise men. Matt. 2:2, 11
4. He was worshiped as God by a leper. Matt. 8:2
5. He was worshiped as God by a ruler. Matt. 9:18
6. He was worshiped as God by a Canaanite woman. Matt. 15:25
7. He was worshiped as God by a mother. Matt. 20:20
8. He was worshiped as God by a maniac. Mark 5:6
9. He was worshiped as God by a man born blind. John 9:38
10. He was worshiped as God by Thomas. John 20:28
11. He was worshiped as God by the Greeks. John 12:20-21
12. He was worshiped as God by His Apostles. Matt. 14:33; 28:9
13. He is worshiped as God by all creation. Rev 5:11-14
14. He was worshiped as God by Isaiah. Isaiah 6:1-6. John 12:41
15. He was worshiped as God by the women. Matt 28:9
16. He was worshiped by His Disciples. Luke 24:52

The Book Of Mormon also teaches worship of Jesus

1 Nephi 11: 24 And after he had said these words, he said unto me: Look! And I looked, and I beheld the Son of God going forth among the children of men; and I saw many fall down at his feet and worship him.

2 Nephi 25: 29 And now behold, I say unto you that the right way is to believe in Christ, and deny him not; and Christ is the Holy One of Israel; wherefore ye must bow down before him, and worship him with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul; and if ye do this ye shall in nowise be cast out.

3 Nephi 11:
13 And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto them saying:
14 Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may thrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may feel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am the God of Israel, and the God of the whole earth, and have been slain for the sins of the world.

17 Hosanna! Blessed be the name of the Most High God! And they did fall down at the feet of Jesus, and did worship him.

God the Father

It all begins with God the Father. While we know comparatively little about Him, what we know is decisive in understanding His supreme position, our relationship to Him, and His superintending role in the plan of salvation, the Creation, and all else that followed.

As Elder Bruce R. McConkie wrote just before his death: “In the ultimate and final sense of the word, there is only one true and living God. He is the Father, the Almighty Elohim, the Supreme Being, the Creator and Ruler of the universe. ”4 He is the God and Father of Jesus Christ, as well as of all of us. President David O. McKay taught that “the first fundamental truth advocated by Jesus Christ was this, that behind, above and over all there is God the Father, Lord of heaven and earth.”5

What we know of the nature of God the Father is mostly what we can learn from the ministry and teachings of His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ. As Elder Jeffrey R. Holland has taught, one of the paramount purposes of Jesus’s ministry was to reveal to mortals “what God our Eternal Father is like, … to reveal and make personal to us the true nature of His Father, our Father in Heaven.”6 The Bible contains an apostolic witness that Jesus was “the express image” of His Father’s person (Hebrews 1:3), which merely elaborates Jesus’s own teaching that “he that hath seen me hath seen the Father” (John 14:9).

God the Father is the Father of our spirits. We are His children. He loves us, and all that He does is for our eternal benefit. He is the author of the plan of salvation, and it is by His power that His plan achieves its purposes for the ultimate glory of His children.

Notice the official Mormon cite has no Book Of Mormon verses to tell us who God the Father is an says God The Father is the Creator when The Bible and Book of Mormon tells us Jesus is the Creator . The Book of Mormon is another Testament of Jesus and not God The Father, which could explain an absence of God The Father, sounds to me there admitting God the Father is incomprehensible 

Something the Athanasian Creed teaches

12. As also there are not three uncreated nor three incomprehensible, but one uncreated and one incomprehensible.

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Hebrews 1

1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

Rev 3: 14 “To the angel (divine messenger) of the church in Laodicea write: “These are the words of the Amen, the trusted and faithful and true Witness, the Beginning and Origin of God’s creation:

The Book of Helaman

Chapter 14:

12 And that ye might know of the coming of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and of earth, the Creator of all things from the beginning; and that ye might know of the signs of his coming, to the intent that ye might believe on his name.

3 Nephi 9:

15 Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name.

Isa. 44:24

Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer,
And He who formed you from the womb:
“I am the LORD, who makes all things,
Who stretches out the heavens all alone,
Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself;

Malachi 2

10 Have we not all one Father?

Has not one God created us ?

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